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		<title>By: 6th blog due Nov. 18th &#171; It&#39;s my Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>6th blog due Nov. 18th &#171; It&#39;s my Life</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Myths and preconceptions or PR &#171; hillmill1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myths and preconceptions or PR &#171; hillmill1</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Social Realist &#187; Blog Buzz on PR: January 6, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Realist &#187; Blog Buzz on PR: January 6, 2008</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Peter Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description>i just wrote an article on a similar topic it can be found at http://theobserverpodcast.com/?p=471</description>
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		<title>By: Mariana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on the point that PR professionals should aim at transparency in our daily work and in our contact with stakeholders, clients, prospect clients and public in general. In the same way, journalists should aim at transparency in their news articles or broadcasts.
It&#039;s true that, in the end, we respond to our employer and that none of us would say something that could damage his reputation or the reputation of his company or product. But... doesn&#039;t just everybody have to respond to their bosses? Or aren&#039;t journalists sometimes pressed by the editors or chiefs to present a certain side of a story or don&#039;t they sometimes show a biased point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the point that PR professionals should aim at transparency in our daily work and in our contact with stakeholders, clients, prospect clients and public in general. In the same way, journalists should aim at transparency in their news articles or broadcasts.<br />
It&#8217;s true that, in the end, we respond to our employer and that none of us would say something that could damage his reputation or the reputation of his company or product. But&#8230; doesn&#8217;t just everybody have to respond to their bosses? Or aren&#8217;t journalists sometimes pressed by the editors or chiefs to present a certain side of a story or don&#8217;t they sometimes show a biased point of view?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen E. Sukalac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen E. Sukalac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the level to which &quot;relative objectivity&quot; applies to the PR professional depends on whether you are looking at the whole professional or just their external role. Part of our job is to convey the other sides of the story to our colleagues to fight against the natural tendency of any community towards GroupThink. I often comment that in some ways I was better at my job when I&#039;d just arrived and had to ask all the stupid questions. Now I have been &quot;institutionalized&quot; and must consciously fight to keep that other viewpoint in mind. Perhaps we should call it &quot;relatively skeptical&quot; since it is about playing the Devil&#039;s Advocate in many cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the level to which &#8220;relative objectivity&#8221; applies to the PR professional depends on whether you are looking at the whole professional or just their external role. Part of our job is to convey the other sides of the story to our colleagues to fight against the natural tendency of any community towards GroupThink. I often comment that in some ways I was better at my job when I&#8217;d just arrived and had to ask all the stupid questions. Now I have been &#8220;institutionalized&#8221; and must consciously fight to keep that other viewpoint in mind. Perhaps we should call it &#8220;relatively skeptical&#8221; since it is about playing the Devil&#8217;s Advocate in many cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Toni Muzi Falconi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni Muzi Falconi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>touché, Ira.
I accept your point of view..
if we agree that the public relator, before constructing and going out with an argument (whatever the issue) looks at all sides of the story; makes sure that unintended consequences on other publics from that story are not a suprise; indicates identity, interests, objectives and, where possible, process to interlocutors and -as a competitive advantage in order to develop trust and credibility- also indicates other sides of the argument to stimulate attention. I accept that we do not necessarily need to call this &#039;relative objectivity&#039;, but simply better professionalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>touché, Ira.<br />
I accept your point of view..<br />
if we agree that the public relator, before constructing and going out with an argument (whatever the issue) looks at all sides of the story; makes sure that unintended consequences on other publics from that story are not a suprise; indicates identity, interests, objectives and, where possible, process to interlocutors and -as a competitive advantage in order to develop trust and credibility- also indicates other sides of the argument to stimulate attention. I accept that we do not necessarily need to call this &#8216;relative objectivity&#8217;, but simply better professionalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Basen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira Basen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually agree with many of the points that Catherine and Toni make here.  I have no illusions about journalistic “objectivity”, and I understand that journalism today faces many serious challenges as a result of more than a decade of cutbacks and demands to “do more with less”.  Under-resourced newsrooms are full of young, inexperienced, over-worked journalists for whom PR people are an indispensable resource.  This has helped shift the balance of power in favour of PR.  And with great power comes great responsibility.  While some PR people might take advantage of a reporters’ lack of knowledge and time to give their client a positive “spin”, I have no doubt that most PR practitioners continue to operate honourably and ethically when dealing with the press.  Public relations is an essential part of journalism.  It always has been, and always will be.

But to get back to Toni’s original point, and to avoid being accused of “otherthingism”, I remain uncomfortable with the use of the word “objectivity”, even in a relative sense, when describing the work that PR people do.  And at a time when the word is falling out of favour in journalistic circles (to be replaced with words like “fairness” and “balance”), I’m not sure why PR people would want to grab this falling torch.   Journalists don’t expect PR people to be objective, but as Toni says, “so what”?  Journalists expect the information they get from PR practitioners to be accurate and honest, but they also understand that the PR person is a paid advocate, and has a vested interest in how the story ultimately gets written.  Can this really be squared with “objectivity”?

No self-respecting journalist needs to be told by a PR person that they should be making more phone calls, and though suggestions are always welcome, they shouldn’t be relying on PR people to tell them who they should be calling.  The failure to vigorously pursue different sides of a story (which happens far too often) is a failure of journalism that neither can nor should be corrected by public relations.   As one senior PR executive in Toronto told me in an interview, “you don’t have to just buy what I say. You can talk to whomever you want. My job is to make the story from my perspective as clear as possible, and that’s really it. It&#039;s not my job to say the story begins and ends with what I’ve told you. It&#039;s not my fault if you don’t make another phone call”.   Most journalists understand and accept this as the basis of their relationship with PR.  The attempt by public relations to improve its relationship with journalists or other “interlocutors” by appearing more “objective” is probably unnecessary, and likely doomed to failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with many of the points that Catherine and Toni make here.  I have no illusions about journalistic “objectivity”, and I understand that journalism today faces many serious challenges as a result of more than a decade of cutbacks and demands to “do more with less”.  Under-resourced newsrooms are full of young, inexperienced, over-worked journalists for whom PR people are an indispensable resource.  This has helped shift the balance of power in favour of PR.  And with great power comes great responsibility.  While some PR people might take advantage of a reporters’ lack of knowledge and time to give their client a positive “spin”, I have no doubt that most PR practitioners continue to operate honourably and ethically when dealing with the press.  Public relations is an essential part of journalism.  It always has been, and always will be.</p>
<p>But to get back to Toni’s original point, and to avoid being accused of “otherthingism”, I remain uncomfortable with the use of the word “objectivity”, even in a relative sense, when describing the work that PR people do.  And at a time when the word is falling out of favour in journalistic circles (to be replaced with words like “fairness” and “balance”), I’m not sure why PR people would want to grab this falling torch.   Journalists don’t expect PR people to be objective, but as Toni says, “so what”?  Journalists expect the information they get from PR practitioners to be accurate and honest, but they also understand that the PR person is a paid advocate, and has a vested interest in how the story ultimately gets written.  Can this really be squared with “objectivity”?</p>
<p>No self-respecting journalist needs to be told by a PR person that they should be making more phone calls, and though suggestions are always welcome, they shouldn’t be relying on PR people to tell them who they should be calling.  The failure to vigorously pursue different sides of a story (which happens far too often) is a failure of journalism that neither can nor should be corrected by public relations.   As one senior PR executive in Toronto told me in an interview, “you don’t have to just buy what I say. You can talk to whomever you want. My job is to make the story from my perspective as clear as possible, and that’s really it. It&#8217;s not my job to say the story begins and ends with what I’ve told you. It&#8217;s not my fault if you don’t make another phone call”.   Most journalists understand and accept this as the basis of their relationship with PR.  The attempt by public relations to improve its relationship with journalists or other “interlocutors” by appearing more “objective” is probably unnecessary, and likely doomed to failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Toni Muzi Falconi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni Muzi Falconi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In these slumbering days for my country (Italy) I can think of only a handful of polticians who I really admire.
One of them is President Giorgio Napolitano who many years ago explained to me (when we were both jointly and very active in trying to reform the ex communist party, he from the inside and I from the outside..but it&#039;s another story..) his concept of &#039;benaltrismo&#039; (otherthingism), a term coined to explain when in a debate other participants move on to another issue because, maybe unconsciuosly, the prefer to avoid confrontation with the one which began the conversation.
This seems to me to have happened during this discussion.

Mind you..not that otherthingisms mentioned are not interesting..to the contrary..but this is the best way to divert a discussion from its original intent (talking of relative objectivity...).

Of course transparency is a fundamental feature of professional public relations, no matter what (with all due respect) Ira Basin says.
Brad Rawlins, from Brigham Young has recently published a highly interesting paper on this, and even before that I have been for years raising my coworkers and students the argument that, specifically in public relations, transparency basically implies three (and sometimes four) components:
°you say who you are
°you say who you represent
°you explicit your specific objective
and (but only when soft or hard regulations do not impede you...such as in financial communication for example)
°you explicit how you intend to reach your specific objective.
This is transparency, essential, but has nothing to do with what I was trying to express in my original post.

I am not surprised that Ira voice what journalists expect from us (my recent post on the italian research on what we think of journalists and they think of us fully confirms this).
So what?
I am in full and total agreement with Catherine Arrow who suggests that journalists are less and less our principal interlocutors and that even when we discuss with journalists we should always keep in mind that they are only intermediaries (however essential) with our real publics.

The concept of relative objectivity, I admit (but this is why I raised it), is difficult for a public relator to come to grips with, but (if I may...)I strongly advocate that more thought should be given to this, not because we want our employer/clients to be good rather than only appear good (Cathy again), but principally for the reason Ira indicates. If journalists do not expect you to be relatively objective, if they find out you are, they will surprised and you will be more effective.
And if this is true for journalists, who are by far the most cynical and misbelieving of professionals (worse than doctors or lawyers, let alone public relators..), then it is even more true for other and more relevant interlocutors such as financial analysts, non profit organizations, suppliers, distributors, clients, employees and what have you.
Just as simple as that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In these slumbering days for my country (Italy) I can think of only a handful of polticians who I really admire.<br />
One of them is President Giorgio Napolitano who many years ago explained to me (when we were both jointly and very active in trying to reform the ex communist party, he from the inside and I from the outside..but it&#8217;s another story..) his concept of &#8216;benaltrismo&#8217; (otherthingism), a term coined to explain when in a debate other participants move on to another issue because, maybe unconsciuosly, the prefer to avoid confrontation with the one which began the conversation.<br />
This seems to me to have happened during this discussion.</p>
<p>Mind you..not that otherthingisms mentioned are not interesting..to the contrary..but this is the best way to divert a discussion from its original intent (talking of relative objectivity&#8230;).</p>
<p>Of course transparency is a fundamental feature of professional public relations, no matter what (with all due respect) Ira Basin says.<br />
Brad Rawlins, from Brigham Young has recently published a highly interesting paper on this, and even before that I have been for years raising my coworkers and students the argument that, specifically in public relations, transparency basically implies three (and sometimes four) components:<br />
°you say who you are<br />
°you say who you represent<br />
°you explicit your specific objective<br />
and (but only when soft or hard regulations do not impede you&#8230;such as in financial communication for example)<br />
°you explicit how you intend to reach your specific objective.<br />
This is transparency, essential, but has nothing to do with what I was trying to express in my original post.</p>
<p>I am not surprised that Ira voice what journalists expect from us (my recent post on the italian research on what we think of journalists and they think of us fully confirms this).<br />
So what?<br />
I am in full and total agreement with Catherine Arrow who suggests that journalists are less and less our principal interlocutors and that even when we discuss with journalists we should always keep in mind that they are only intermediaries (however essential) with our real publics.</p>
<p>The concept of relative objectivity, I admit (but this is why I raised it), is difficult for a public relator to come to grips with, but (if I may&#8230;)I strongly advocate that more thought should be given to this, not because we want our employer/clients to be good rather than only appear good (Cathy again), but principally for the reason Ira indicates. If journalists do not expect you to be relatively objective, if they find out you are, they will surprised and you will be more effective.<br />
And if this is true for journalists, who are by far the most cynical and misbelieving of professionals (worse than doctors or lawyers, let alone public relators..), then it is even more true for other and more relevant interlocutors such as financial analysts, non profit organizations, suppliers, distributors, clients, employees and what have you.<br />
Just as simple as that..</p>
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