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		<title>By: Judy Gombita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Gombita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A six-minute &lt;a href=&quot;http://cprs.ca/foundation/e_tisdall.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tribute video&lt;/a&gt; on Charles Tisdall is now available for viewing on the CPRS website (it includes tributes from Barb and Bart).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A six-minute <a href="http://cprs.ca/foundation/e_tisdall.htm" rel="nofollow">tribute video</a> on Charles Tisdall is now available for viewing on the CPRS website (it includes tributes from Barb and Bart).</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Gombita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Gombita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Received by e-mail, I was asked to post this in the Comments section, because Judi was receiving a &quot;no puedo abrir&quot; message at the Internet cafe when she attempted to comment on PR Conversations directly. JG)

I am currently travelling around Mexico and was saddened by the news of the death of Charles Tisdall. I knew Charles for many years, as we were co-board members for The Famous People Players, the well-known black light theatre company based in Toronto. He was one of the most supportive members of the board and at one time served as its chair. He always had time to spend working out problems, preparing reports and being a jovial representative of the board. I later followed him as chair and his guidance was invaluable. No question was too small or mundane for him. He treated everyone as if she or he was the most important person he knew. He always had a smile on his face. Towards the end of his life, while he was in the hospital, we visited him a few times before I headed south and he told us wonderful stories of his life.

He loved art, the theatre and above all...his family.

He will be missed.

Judi Schwartz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Received by e-mail, I was asked to post this in the Comments section, because Judi was receiving a &#8220;no puedo abrir&#8221; message at the Internet cafe when she attempted to comment on PR Conversations directly. JG)</p>
<p>I am currently travelling around Mexico and was saddened by the news of the death of Charles Tisdall. I knew Charles for many years, as we were co-board members for The Famous People Players, the well-known black light theatre company based in Toronto. He was one of the most supportive members of the board and at one time served as its chair. He always had time to spend working out problems, preparing reports and being a jovial representative of the board. I later followed him as chair and his guidance was invaluable. No question was too small or mundane for him. He treated everyone as if she or he was the most important person he knew. He always had a smile on his face. Towards the end of his life, while he was in the hospital, we visited him a few times before I headed south and he told us wonderful stories of his life.</p>
<p>He loved art, the theatre and above all&#8230;his family.</p>
<p>He will be missed.</p>
<p>Judi Schwartz</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Valin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Valin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,
Thnaks for posting this and what a great story you have told the world. Not many people can claim they have known a legend and Canada- nay the world- just lost one. Barbara did cherish her time with him and with a mind like his, a wit like no other I have know who would not !
I am equally pleased to see David&#039;s post and others who pay tribute to this great man. Bart Mindsenthy&#039;s poem -in addition to showing yet another one of Bart&#039;s many talents- is equal to the task of looking back on one&#039;s life and contribution to the betterment of society.
I only hope I can achieve a quarter of that in my lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,<br />
Thnaks for posting this and what a great story you have told the world. Not many people can claim they have known a legend and Canada- nay the world- just lost one. Barbara did cherish her time with him and with a mind like his, a wit like no other I have know who would not !<br />
I am equally pleased to see David&#8217;s post and others who pay tribute to this great man. Bart Mindsenthy&#8217;s poem -in addition to showing yet another one of Bart&#8217;s many talents- is equal to the task of looking back on one&#8217;s life and contribution to the betterment of society.<br />
I only hope I can achieve a quarter of that in my lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,

Like Catherine, I was struck by the comment regarding relationships. The saying, &quot;No one cares what you know until they know that you care,&quot; can apply to public relations professionals as much as to clergy, physicians or politicians.

In that regard, Judy, you have prepared yourself well for this dive into blogging, because you have built a strong network of colleagues, myself included, who appreciate what you have to say. Best wishes for many future posts that will be as worthwhile as this one.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,</p>
<p>Like Catherine, I was struck by the comment regarding relationships. The saying, &#8220;No one cares what you know until they know that you care,&#8221; can apply to public relations professionals as much as to clergy, physicians or politicians.</p>
<p>In that regard, Judy, you have prepared yourself well for this dive into blogging, because you have built a strong network of colleagues, myself included, who appreciate what you have to say. Best wishes for many future posts that will be as worthwhile as this one.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Gombita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Gombita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toni, I think the idea Heather proposed (and Catherine seconded) is excellent: PR Conversations is ideally situated to launch an international Online Hall of (PR) Fame. (Maybe we should corral Heather into working with our dear Andrea to set it up.)

(I also think it&#039;s great that Catherine is providing us with &quot;Kiwi expressions,&quot; to supplement your Italian ones.)

And to David, thank you for sharing that story about Charles. It sounds like you concur with Barb and Bart about his generosity and wonderful sense of humour. I wish I&#039;d had the privilege of knowing him personally, but these personal remembrances are a great consolation prize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toni, I think the idea Heather proposed (and Catherine seconded) is excellent: PR Conversations is ideally situated to launch an international Online Hall of (PR) Fame. (Maybe we should corral Heather into working with our dear Andrea to set it up.)</p>
<p>(I also think it&#8217;s great that Catherine is providing us with &#8220;Kiwi expressions,&#8221; to supplement your Italian ones.)</p>
<p>And to David, thank you for sharing that story about Charles. It sounds like you concur with Barb and Bart about his generosity and wonderful sense of humour. I wish I&#8217;d had the privilege of knowing him personally, but these personal remembrances are a great consolation prize.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Arrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Arrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Judy
I greatly appreciated reading about Charles Tisdall and thank you for such an interesting post.  I think this paragraph was particularly pertinent:

&quot;He always said that it always has been and still is all about relationships, telling the truth, learning from success and failure and never forgetting that, like journalists, professional public relations practitioners serve the public interest as much as their employers.”

For me, a really valuable aspect of conversations such as this is the opportunity to listen, learn something new (because there is something new to learn every day) and gain insights into the experience of others - your story about Charles Tisdall does all those things.  I think Heather&#039;s suggestion is an admirable one - sharing stories about the industry&#039;s pioneers in different parts of the world would be a very positive thing to do, so I shall go off for a bit of a fossick* around New Zealand’s past.

*Fossick is a Kiwi expression that I am particularly fond of which means searching around, not necessarily systematically, and turning up something interesting. In England, it tends to mean ferreting out information, so I’ll be doing a bit of both I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Judy<br />
I greatly appreciated reading about Charles Tisdall and thank you for such an interesting post.  I think this paragraph was particularly pertinent:</p>
<p>&#8220;He always said that it always has been and still is all about relationships, telling the truth, learning from success and failure and never forgetting that, like journalists, professional public relations practitioners serve the public interest as much as their employers.”</p>
<p>For me, a really valuable aspect of conversations such as this is the opportunity to listen, learn something new (because there is something new to learn every day) and gain insights into the experience of others &#8211; your story about Charles Tisdall does all those things.  I think Heather&#8217;s suggestion is an admirable one &#8211; sharing stories about the industry&#8217;s pioneers in different parts of the world would be a very positive thing to do, so I shall go off for a bit of a fossick* around New Zealand’s past.</p>
<p>*Fossick is a Kiwi expression that I am particularly fond of which means searching around, not necessarily systematically, and turning up something interesting. In England, it tends to mean ferreting out information, so I’ll be doing a bit of both I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eisenstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eisenstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Tisdall and I were #s 1 and 2 respectively as the first two Canadians achieving PRSA Fellow status.....a few years later, CPRS grandfathered us both into the CPRS College of Fellows.  I kidded Charles about his &quot;new&quot; grandfatherly honour, since he was &quot;much older than I&quot;.....his generous response....&quot;David, you&#039;re the youngest grandfather I know.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Tisdall and I were #s 1 and 2 respectively as the first two Canadians achieving PRSA Fellow status&#8230;..a few years later, CPRS grandfathered us both into the CPRS College of Fellows.  I kidded Charles about his &#8220;new&#8221; grandfatherly honour, since he was &#8220;much older than I&#8221;&#8230;..his generous response&#8230;.&#8221;David, you&#8217;re the youngest grandfather I know.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Yaxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Yaxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy - a brilliant read and marvellous tribute.  There are so many great pioneers in PR who are in danger of being forgotten.  I hope PR Conversations can become a repository for some memories - but it would be great to have an online Hall of Fame.

What strikes me (knowing several &quot;senior&quot; PR practitioners myself) is that they value people, conversations and friendship.  In becoming professional, some people decry this &quot;gin and tonic&quot; approach, but it was about respect, trust and humanity, which should always be at the heart of good public relations.

Not all my &quot;old guys&quot; in motor PR were as feminist in their day as Charles Tisdall appears to have been.  But I find they are very supportive of women in PR today.  They think we have things harder in terms of the speed of change, but their values apply as much today as when they were busy protecting reputations and managing the media agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy &#8211; a brilliant read and marvellous tribute.  There are so many great pioneers in PR who are in danger of being forgotten.  I hope PR Conversations can become a repository for some memories &#8211; but it would be great to have an online Hall of Fame.</p>
<p>What strikes me (knowing several &#8220;senior&#8221; PR practitioners myself) is that they value people, conversations and friendship.  In becoming professional, some people decry this &#8220;gin and tonic&#8221; approach, but it was about respect, trust and humanity, which should always be at the heart of good public relations.</p>
<p>Not all my &#8220;old guys&#8221; in motor PR were as feminist in their day as Charles Tisdall appears to have been.  But I find they are very supportive of women in PR today.  They think we have things harder in terms of the speed of change, but their values apply as much today as when they were busy protecting reputations and managing the media agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: toni muzi falconi</title>
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		<dc:creator>toni muzi falconi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy
what a truly fascinating story! I wish we could all rejoice when we have the privilege of learning about colleagues we knew nothing about, but which have been so relevant in their environment. I very much welcome Charles in our group and  hope that he will be quickly joined by other, however virtual but certainly significant and professional presences.
Thank you for sharing this with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy<br />
what a truly fascinating story! I wish we could all rejoice when we have the privilege of learning about colleagues we knew nothing about, but which have been so relevant in their environment. I very much welcome Charles in our group and  hope that he will be quickly joined by other, however virtual but certainly significant and professional presences.<br />
Thank you for sharing this with us.</p>
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